exeggutorhead: (but see what about this other thing?)
Envy ([personal profile] exeggutorhead) wrote2015-01-20 10:43 am

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So we're all from different worlds, right? Whole planets full of millions of people.

So what are the odds that people who know each other show up all the time? They've got to be astronomical, but we can almost EXPECT it to happen.

I'm from one of those worlds that isn't one with Europe and America and all that. And almost everyone who's ever shown up and heard of my country? Either I've known them or someone else here has. And every single one of them has been from the same time period of a few years. Nobody I only knew from, say, a hundred years ago ever shows up.


[Random Joe Notinvolved from Amestris should by all rights appear so why doesn't that happen? This is something he thinks about on and off, but after his conversation with Jimmy the other day, it's itching at his mind again.]

Has anyone else noticed something like this?
francia: (Curious Cat)

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[personal profile] francia 2015-01-20 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
[France is at a work, but, dang, it's a slow day.]

I have had people come from much further back than a hundred years. Romano and Spain, for example. But I do seem to be very much in the minority for that.

It's also interesting that people don't seem to come from the future of their worlds. At least, I don't recall an example of anyone who is more than a handful of years ahead of their world cohort.

This discussion is always best over a bottle of good wine. Want me to bring one home in a couple of hours?
francia: (Pensive Meal)

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[personal profile] francia 2015-01-20 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll bring snacks, too. I'll message you when I leave work.

[When his shift ends, France packs up a bottle of one of the red wines he finds dependably passable and bags a tray of almonds and cashews. On his way out, he texts:]

Have the things. Are you home?
francia: (Really Hungry)

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[personal profile] francia 2015-01-20 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[When France opens the door and comes into the living room, he has a brief moment of self-awareness. It is not the fact there is a spider the size of a large dog catching treats like a normal, everyday pet that makes him pause. Rather, it's the fact he's not surprised nor alarmed.]

[He sets his bag down and takes out the wine and bag of nuts with a slightly gob-smacked expression playing over his face.]


Out of curiosity, what brought on your post today?
francia: (Lick Sweet)

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[personal profile] francia 2015-01-20 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
[France uncorks the wine bottle and pours them both full glasses. He settles himself on the couch, holding out Envy's for him to take.]

Had he heard of Amestris?

[His lips quirk a little as he takes a sip from his own glass before answering.]

I just had the thought that I once would have found a spider of Bunch's size to be quite alarming. Then again, I probably still would if it wasn't Bunch.
francia: (Damn Thing)

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[personal profile] francia 2015-01-23 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[France makes a thoughtful noise, swirling the red in his glass lazily. It has a slightly sharp aroma, but there's a subtle sweetness that France finds balances this one out.]

[When he speaks, it's a little slower than his usual diction, turning over his words as he voices them.]


There's a part of me that still has a difficult time with the knowledge that there are different worlds. Perhaps even different universes all together. It's not that I don't have the concept back home, but it's a fairly recent concept and rather philosophical. One thing that's always stuck in my head about the concept, though, is all the different universes are supposed to be different, which implies there's something about them that makes them unique from all the other possibilities. This is certainly truth if we assume the number of possible worlds and universes is infinite.

[France squints and takes a sip of wine. He sets the glass on the table and picks out one of the cashews. He motions vaguely with it.]

For my world, the difference from others might be the fact I and those like me exist. For you, it might be the structure of your countries and the manner in and by which you exist.

[He pops the cashew into his mouth, turning to fully face Envy as he does to smile and shrug ruefully as he chews and swallows.]

We can't be sure, of course. I mean, I used to think me being here meant I was dead.

[Which hadn't actually been disproven in France's opinion, despite what China had told him. And there are people who have come to this world who certainly are dead in theirs, so there's that, too.]
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paladinlost: (err)

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[personal profile] paladinlost 2015-01-20 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It's mostly the same for me, except that everyone from my world or from the previous world I visited came from seventeen years ago. I'll be the first to say it was a memorable year, but that's still no explanation.
paladinlost: (flowy)

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[personal profile] paladinlost 2015-01-21 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I am. I'd never heard of it before I arrived here.

[And yet his world is also called Earth. Because.]

I've never fallen asleep like that. When I first arrived, past friends from that other world were already present. Then others arrived, and friends from home after that... All from the same year, and all long gone.
crouching_sin: (i didn't have a clue)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2015-01-20 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
[... Huh. That's interesting.]

Maybe whatever draws us here is interested in more recent history.

... Also, you're over a hundred years old?
crouching_sin: (hmph.)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2015-01-20 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm from Japan in 2009, so that's close. And yes, Europe definitely exists.

[... Oh. Well then.]

You must be bored. I imagine you've seen quite a lot.
crouching_sin: (and this is crazy)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2015-01-20 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Apparently he's been here for four years.

That's true. Still, history tends to repeat itself, doesn't it? At least in my world.
crouching_sin: (they ain't gonna catch you when you fall)

[personal profile] crouching_sin 2015-01-20 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Roughly the same, as far as I can tell.

True. There's always more things to learn. It depends if you're the type to seek it out, but it seems like you are.
explosivecombat: (And what have we here?)

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[personal profile] explosivecombat 2015-01-20 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something I've questioned repeatedly myself; the closest answer I've found so far is that most here seem to have either been involved in a major event - affecting either the world in general or just a sufficient number of people, whatever "sufficient" may happen to be in their world's case (the criteria seems to be different based on the state of their world in general) - or, if they weren't involved, they at least witnessed it or stood to be affected by it in some way.

Basically, an impact was made and this world noticed.
explosivecombat: (I suppose that could be equally relevant)

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[personal profile] explosivecombat 2015-01-20 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an entirely fair point - if the sole thing that warrants people being chosen is the capacity to change the world, I can think of at least two people who absolutely should be here but never have been, to my knowledge.

Perhaps it requires a specific sort of event to trigger it?
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[personal profile] a_sin_for_him 2015-01-20 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
An interesting point. I've never much thought about it, all things considered. But it does seem rather beyond the realm of coincidence that we've all been brought here from within a few years of one another, and all have connections to one another.
a_sin_for_him: (Left behind)

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[personal profile] a_sin_for_him 2015-01-22 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoy it.

With that information alone, it's enough to assume we were brought here BECAUSE we share a connection.

Scar mentioned something similar to me, once. Just wondering why we're here. We thought that maybe everyone who's here is here because our own worlds and lives did us ill.
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[personal profile] armoredsoul 2015-01-22 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
[...goddamnit, why did you have to pick an interesting topic, Envy. Maybe if he keeps to text they won't bite each other's head off.]

It might be that to be able to be 'found' we have to meet some specific set of circumstances, whether through our lives or personality. The choice can't be random, but I can't figure out why the worlds similar to our parallel one are more represented.
armoredsoul: (Eh?)

[personal profile] armoredsoul 2015-01-25 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Russell Tringham? He was impersonating Brother in Xenotime to get his research funded by the man who owned the town's land. I'm surprised you didn't know about that, honestly; they were trying to make the Stone with red water.
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[personal profile] armoredsoul 2015-01-25 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
He wasn't the brightest bulb in the box, no. I'm surprised we were what caused the whole thing to go under, honestly.

Huh. Does that sort of thing happen often? People only being here for a few days or weeks?
armoredsoul: (Serious business)

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[personal profile] armoredsoul 2015-01-29 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I wonder why that sort of thing tapered off like that. It almost reminds me of a volatile reaction starting to stabilize.
majorcrotchgrab: **paid comission. do not take** (✬ deep in thought?)

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[personal profile] majorcrotchgrab 2015-01-23 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I never noticed since hardly anyone from my world has been here. I did meet two people that was from almost 50 years in the future though. I only found out by accident that we were from the same place.

But one person I knew prior who arrived here was from 6 years in the past. It was... odd.
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[personal profile] majorcrotchgrab 2015-01-27 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
The USSR, North America, South America, Africa, Asia, and Europe. Seems to be the norm for a lot of people here too.

I didn't get to learn much about the future of my world when they were here. I... honestly didn't want to know.
enjoymyatelier: maybe he should check the foundations, come to think of it. (red car. good point.)

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[personal profile] enjoymyatelier 2015-01-23 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always assumed that it had something to do with being connected to some sort of event... usually something astronomical, but as long as it's something that can connect a reasonably large group of people through varying levels of association, it seems to count. I have encountered people from the distant past here, but they're special cases that were involved in an event that also involved me.

Though, there are always people who were apparently just living out their daily lives before arriving here, which makes it... odd.

They tend to be more fascinating than most, though, so perhaps that's it?
enjoymyatelier: maybe he should check the foundations, come to think of it. (red car. good point.)

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[personal profile] enjoymyatelier 2015-01-27 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hah, that's true. There are some people I've encountered here who seem to be living ordinary lives by their standards, but there's still something I'd consider extraordinary about them.

...like the fact that they may be intelligent horses, for example.
walkersystem: (officer parkman?)

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[personal profile] walkersystem 2015-01-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
youre a hundred years old?

[This is what she's going to take away from it, yeah.]
walkersystem: (no way)

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[personal profile] walkersystem 2015-01-24 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
[That's more than a thing. That's like ... a thing thing.]

no way!!!
walkersystem: (hint of a smile)

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[personal profile] walkersystem 2015-01-25 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[yeah Envy you got the EXTRA EXCLAMATION MARKS. If you play your cards right maybe she won't think you're a jerk anymore!]

yeah! is that your power?
walkersystem: (talking)

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[personal profile] walkersystem 2015-01-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[Small delay before she answers that one.]

how man y do you have?
walkersystem: (level gaze)

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[personal profile] walkersystem 2015-01-31 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
[THAT WOULD MAKE HIM THE LITERAL WORST, so thank god for that.]

i bet you really miss all that
if they dont work here i mean.
goestoextremes: (But that won't keep me warm)

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[personal profile] goestoextremes 2015-01-25 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the odds of that happening are astronomical and I wouldn't exactly expect it to happen. Or them to stay around if they show up, though my best friend is still here and she's been here before me.

[Still. It's not like she's taking it for granted, that Asami will stay here... That wouldn't be a good way of thinking in a place like this.]

We don't have Europe, America or Japan and those others in my world either. No one's ever heard of it either unless they're from there or heard about it from someone here. But Katara's been here from -- way before I was even born, or before my parents were born even. So that's different than your few years. I know some of her friends have been here, and I think a friend or two from my time back home might have been here for a little while too, but now it's only Asami and me. Not that I mind. At least I don't think someone like my first incarnation from 10 000 years ago has ever been here, but who knows, he might show up one day.
foolishwren: don't let this fading summer pass you by (Said the magpie to the morning:)

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[personal profile] foolishwren 2015-01-27 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I've thought about this a few times

Pretty much come to the conclusion that however we all wind up here, it's not random

I couldn't tell you what the selection process is, but it's definitely not random
foolishwren: the saddest part was definitely when Augustus fell into the chocolate river and got sucked up into that tube thing (uh yea ive read The Fault in Our Stars)

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[personal profile] foolishwren 2015-01-30 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah

there's SOME kind of pattern, no doubt about it.

The chances alone of my dad showing up, or heck even Henry, are ASTRONOMICALLY TINY compared to the chances of any of the other trillions of people living on my planet who aren't even remotely connected to me

and that's even without taking the time disparity stuff into account